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Tuesday, February 10, 2015

Why I didn't vote for BJP: Angry letter from a loyal BJP voter to Modi and Shah


This gives hopes that many a BJP loyalist have not lost common sense in dealing with fellow Indians. I am glad to see a BJP guy standing up for Christians, that's how it should be. Standing up for a fellow Indian, regardless of the caste or religion. I am glad to have read this, indeed he reflects my views and views of a majority of moderate Indians. We need more of them - to say what is right is right and wrong is wrong. 

Mike Ghouse
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 Dear Messrs Modi and Shah

I am a BJP voter, as are members of my family. On 16 May, we were over the moon. On 7 February, I voted Nota.

My Modi-bhakt mother voted BJP in her constituency, but only because the candidate is a family friend. The vote was for the individual, not the party. If I had been in that constituency, I would also have voted for the person, not the BJP.

The in-laws of a close friend are not just strong BJP supporters, but have a strong association with the RSS. All of them, except one, voted AAP — even the 85-plus father-in-law, who would switch channels whenever Arvind Kejriwalcame on the TV screen. He thinks you, Mr Modi, have become too arrogant.
Prime Minister Narendra Modi in a file photo. PTI
We are angry with you. Very angry. And it is this anger which has led to this wipe-out of the party in Delhi. Forget the spin you are putting that the BJP vote share is intact. The fact is many of us refrained from voting for you in some form or the other.

Angry because you appeared to be taking Delhi voters for granted. That just because we gave you seven Lok Sabha seats, we would continue to vote for you even if you did not work to woo us. That you only had to come and address a few election rallies, throw around a few catch phrases and we will all line up and vote BJP.

What else could explain why you did not call for elections in Delhi along with that of other state assemblies? Kejriwal and AAP had started working for assembly elections almost as soon as the Lok Sabha elections were over. We could all see the party working on the ground and were apprehensive that they would recover lost ground. But you ignored those signals. You could have called elections after the BJP did exceedingly well in those state assembly elections. Delhi elections could have been called along with Jammu and Kashmir and Jharkhand elections. But you did nothing and allowed AAP working quietly but surely to gain strength.

What else could explain why you did not address the many civic issues Delhi faces — especially issues related to the lower middle class that AAP targets – even though Delhi was under central rule and the Municipal Corporation of Delhi was dominated by your party? You had eight months, control of the Delhi government and the urban local body and you did zilch. Sheila Dixit asked "who is Arvind Kejriwal" and paid the price. Neither of you used such words, but completely ignoring the AAP was something very similar and now you have paid the price.

I am angry because of the humiliation of Delhi’s leaders who have devoted their lives to working for the party. Many of these people have built up personal relations with their constituents. When Harsh Vardhan was shifted out of the health ministry, many of us were glad that he is being freed up for the Delhi elections. But that did not happen. You put him in an insignificant portfolio and kept him there. And on top of that you parachute Kiran Bedi as chief ministerial candidate. I decided on Nota that very day. My mother got completely put off when Bedi summoned BJP MPs and councillors for a meeting and started talking as if she were already chief minister. She may not even have gone to vote if it were not for personal relations with the candidate.

You may now blame it on internal sabotage. There was no need for sabotage. That one act had completely demoralised party workers and put off steady supporters/sympathisers. And this kind of mood spreads.

Perhaps Bedi was brought in because of the squabbling in the Delhi unit of the party. But it doesn’t say very much for either of you if you have failed to put an end to this wrangling. Many of the young-ish upstarts would not have dared to openly jockey for the chief minister’s post if you had put your weight behind older leaders who inspired confidence among many of us. But you did not do so.

I am angry with your taking in people from AAP, especially Shazia Ilmi and Kiran Bedi. Shazia Ilmi had attacked you, Mr Modi, savagely when she was in AAP. How could she be allowed into the party?

I am also angry with you for your failure to check the Hindutva fringe elements and condemn 'ramzadon vs haramzadon' kind of remarks. Your statement in Parliament seeking to rationalise the remark in the light of the minister’s background was shameful. Like I said, I come from a BJP supporting family, but such remarks do not go down well with many like us. This kind of polarisation may work in the hinterlands of large states, not in a city like Delhi.

I was also puzzled by your silence on the church attacks. When the first attack in Trilokpuri happened, I sensed something fishy. The Jan Sangh and the BJP have been in a dominant position in Delhi ever since I can remember, but churches have never been targeted. Why was it happening suddenly now? This was clearly a mischievous attempt at communal polarisation and to show that minorities were in danger under a BJP government. But there was no attempt to show up the people behind these attacks. Which led to either of two conclusions. One, that some Hindu fringe outfits were behind these attacks and that is why you were silent. Two, the government’s intelligence machinery was not up to the task. Neither of the two scenarios inspired any confidence in your government.

Or did you hope that even though Hindu groups were not behind the attacks, your silence would reap you some electoral gains from the Hindus? If you did, that was a mistake. Because that lost you a lot of votes that would otherwise have gone to the Congress. Some Christian friends of mine had voted for you in May. That is another reason I am angry. You should have gone aggressively after the Congress votes immediately after the Lok Sabha elections, but you chose to ignore Delhi and focus on other states.

In your effort for a Congress-mukt Bharat, what you gave us was a BJP-mukt Delhi.

None of us expected the BJP to do so badly. We are not deriving vicarious pleasure out of this, as Congress sympathisers are. But there is a certain indifference to the BJP’s plight, a sense that this was inevitable given the way the two of you treated Delhi-ites – as a little child that would rush to oblige you whenever you asked. That was your big mistake.
An angry Delhi BJP voter

Monday, February 9, 2015

India Elections: Congratulations to the people of Delhi for electing the Aam Aadmi Party

Congratulations to the Aam Aadmi Party for winning the elections for Delhi State, it is indeed a landslide victory, but not a good victory for the state. It is a slaughterous victory for democracy by giving 67 out of 70 seats to one party. My biggest disappointment is the future of this kind of democracy where there is no room for opposition.
If you look at the history of democracies be it India, Israel, UK or USA, all the evil wars and implementation of bad policies have been occurred with such majorities. We have got to create a movement where we give majority to a party in each house to cause debates before decisions are made. This will guarantee us the public that we do not have sheepish representatives, but the ones who debate the merits of a bill.

The entire BJP juggernaut was rejected by the Delhi Public. Never in the history of India, the entire national machinery, and 120 cabinet Ministers and the Prime Minister focused on winning the election in the state of Delhi.

Modi has failed the Indians – a lot is written about his inability to control the extremists in his party. This is the first sign of reality catching up with BJP. He cannot help himself, he is not trained to be an inclusive individual, he is trying hard but his RSS Madrasa education prevents him from being inclusive.

Meanwhile, Indians are getting sick of BJP - they promised to focus on prosperity but ended up messing up with social structure - 5 churches were burnt in New Delhi and forced conversions of Muslims is going on, and Mr. Modi has remained silent. This is a pay back and hope Mr. Modi learns.

The problem with Modi is he has got too many Chamchas (sycophants) who blindly praise and even worship him, and perhaps keep him misinformed. It will all accumulate to his ungraceful fall. What he needs is people who are critical of him, that will cause him to be on his toes and succeed in his sab ka sath sab ka vikas goal. On my part I will be critical of him and keep him on his toes. I may look bad to the Chamchas, but that is the right thing to do, than let him fall. If he succeeds, all of us will.

If Mr. Modi does not control the extremists in his party, he is doomed to lose more and the majority of Indians will not cry over it.

I am pleased to add the following incisive analysis by Dr. Amal Mukherjee. I urge Modi supporters to be critical. The greatest enemies of Modi are his Chamchas, defending him on everything he does without realizing its effects on the social cohesion of India. Chamchagiri is the ugliest thing one can do to a leader, be the best citizens of India and criticize where necessary and praise where it is deserved, if not he will fall ungracefully from the esteem you have given him.

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67/3 in Delhi, What went wrong for the BJP?
- Inadequate water and electricity in the Capital.
- Failure of law and order
- PM's inability to reign in the so-called fringe / extremist elements.
- Failure to improve the environmental quality of life .
- Ghar wapsi , forced conversions , church attacks .
- Perception-disconnect between the common man and the PM's personal life-style. ( I think this is a bit over-the-top , but the common man has his own notions + his vote ).
- More time spent with foreign dignitaries in India as well as in abroad and with the corporate honchos, less time with the common man on road.
- Name calling of the AAP leaders, especially of AK, by the BJP leaders - backfired on them.
- Hollow promises by BJP leaders (black money etc.), especially by NAMO, before the general election, not fulfilled, made it worse by Jaitley's song and dance.
It is time for BJP to do some serious introspection and soul searching. Basking in the glory of their general election win is gone. They need to break some new ground.
AAP must fulfill their commitments also otherwise soon they will be kicked out. Indian voters are very intelligent and cannot be fooled. Money cannot buy them anymore. Those days of Congress malpractice have long gone.
Amal
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Disappointment
As an Indian deeply committed to democracy in India, I am disappointed that we do not have a strong opposition. A strong opposition keeps the government on its toes, and at least somewhat accountable. Fascism takes root when the government has huge majority and huge mandate; it is the most dangerous thing for a nation to give full powers to a single party.
Now that AAP has this mandate, from here on I will be extremely critical of them, that is the patriotic thing to do to prevent the nation from going to dogs. I will be Critical of Modi government as well, even though I spoke favarobly about Modi in the beginning, listening to his thoughtful speeches. I urge Modi supporters to be critical, if not he will fall ungracefully from the esteem he has earned. Modi should speak out against radicalism from his party, and not be a goonga.
About Modi - still to be updated. http://mikeghouse.net/NarendraModi.asp
If Mr. Modi does not control the extremists in his party, he is doomed to lose more and the majority of Indians will not cry over it.
Mike Ghouse
www.MikeGhouse.net
About Modi - still to be updated. http://mikeghouse.net/NarendraModi.asp

Mike Ghouse

www.MikeGhouse.net

Saturday, February 7, 2015

Indian Democracy Elections and a Qawwali


MikeGhouseforIndia.blogspot.com

As an Indian deeply committed to democracy in India, not the theocracy that will sink every one of us in the end, I hope and pray that the people of Delhi have voted for AAP.  We will wait for the results. Whatever the outcome of Delhi Elections, we have to live with it.

We need a strong opposition to keep the government on its toes, and at least somewhat accountable. Fascism takes root when the government has huge majority and huge mandate; it is the most dangerous thing for a nation to give full powers to a single party.

Radicals no matter where they raise their ugly heads simply destroy the nations – it’s happening in Iraq, and Syria, and gaining ground in Pakistan. None of us want India to become a theocracy like theirs, we want to be a nation of free people and not to be ruled by a bunch of idiots who who tell us what we can drink, eat, wear or believe.

Those radicals who think Hindutva *** Government is the way to go, will severely regret a few years down the road, and will say;

First they came for Muslims,
we didn’t care, we were not Muslims;

Then they came for Christians,
we rejoiced, we were not Christians;

Then they came for Sikhs,
we did not care, they were not Hindus;

And finally they turned it on us,
They wanted us to be obedient dogs,
and there was no one left to defend us.


The only reason I wish AAP wins is not because I like them, but I like our democracy to win and India to win.  The vote would be a reminder to Modi to bring humility in governance and let the ahankar go.

*** Hindutva is a political ideology similar to Islamists. It is neither Hindu nor Hinduism in character, just as Islamist are neither Islam nor Muslim. 


Enjoy the following political video featuring Modi, Kejriwal, Bedi and Shah.

Video link - https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10153285734992580


Mike Ghouse
www.MikeGhouse.net  


The black people of India - Learn India by Mike Ghouse

I have written extensively about the nature of India’s multi-racial, multi-religious, multi-ethnic, multi-lingual and multi-cultural society.

In an article on Republic Day a few years ago, I wrote,
“We are a nation of all races, ethnicities, cultures and religions.”

Invariably a smart ass Indian objected that we do not have the black race, and I am saddened that many of us Indians don’t know much about India.  How many of us know our neighbors?

Do we know what our neighbors celebrations like Ramnvami, Paryushan, Ramadan, Gurpurab, Easter,
Khordad SalAshura, Rosh Hashanah, and how many of us know the real teachings of different religions? Have we participated in at least 3 different ones?  Socially, are we really smart?


India is really a very diverse nation, as I call America and India, are God's own countries, a cosmic representation of the universe.


The Indian Ocean remains virtually untouched by modern civilization.
http://mikeghouseforindia.blogspot.com/2013/06/the-indian-ocean-remain-virtually.html

 

Three years ago, in February 2010, Bo died, she was the last speaker of the Bo language, with her died a language of the world. She belonged to one of the oldest tribes on the earth, nearly 5000 years old tribe. A press release was issued then at http://mikeghouseforindia.blogspot.com/2010/02/press-release-in-behalf-of-indians-of.html 
 



THE SIDI PEOPLE - BLACK PEOPLE OF INDIA
There is so much more to us than we have been taught. Our history is great and stretches further back than we have been lead to believe and is not exclusive to Africa. 
PLEASE SHARE THIS VIDEO WITH YOUR CHILDREN since they will not be taught this at school



THE SIDI PEOPLE - OF GUJARAT
Video - https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=606738259363319


Declare that India is God’s own country, and is represented by every race, nationality, ethnicity, language, culture and religion. We see God as one, none and many; and in every form; male, female, genderless and non-existent, being and non-being, nameless and with innumerable names, and as Indians, we should not be biased towards any one. Aspire for an India that the world can emulate; a pluralistic democracy where everyone can eat, drink, wear or believe whatever he or she wants to in her pursuit of happiness. 


 
Thank you
mike

Mike Ghouse

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Friday, February 6, 2015

Saffron Brotherhood - Hindutva and ISIS

It is amazing that all the right wing ideologies, be it Muslim, Christian, Hindu, Jewish or Buddhist are the same. It is born out of insecurity, and with the fear of losing in a dialogue, all of them resort to violence, and claim the only way they will have peace is by annihilating the other.

Co-existence is Anathema to ISIS, Talibans, Brotherhood, Hindutva, RSS, VHP, Neocon Christians, and hard core Zionists. There is hope, if we all learn to see the flaws within and talk about it without fear, we can bring about a small change at least. 
 For every Muslim ass, there is a Hindu, Christian, Jewish and a Buddhist ass.

I would request the comment to keep to the topic and not jump off to other things.

Mike Ghouse
www.MikeGhouse.net 



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Saffron Brotherhood

DC | Javed Anand | February 05, 2015, 00.02 am IST
http://www.deccanchronicle.com/150205/commentary-columnists/article/saffron-brotherhood


In its most benevolent interpretation, Hindutva is the ideology that proclaims that India is, should be, a Hindu rashtra (nation) where the status of religious minorities should depend entirely on Hindu goodwill. Though not the same thing, Hindutva belongs to the same family as the ideology of an Islamic State wherein at its benevolent best religious minorities may be permitted (within strict limits) to do their own thing so long as they subserviently pay the jizyah tax.
Secularism as enshrined in the Indian Constitution stipulates the equality of all citizens: non-discrimination, equal opportunity, equality before law, equal protection of law. Not surprisingly, the adherents of Hindutva are inherently as hostile to the ideals of a secular state as the Islamists. The “Brotherhood in Saffron” is but an ideological close cousin of the “Muslim Brotherhood”.
The Sangh Parivar and the Shiv Sena are to India what the Jamaat-e-Islami, the Taliban and their ilk are to Pakistan. Though Pakistan has officially been an “Islamic Republic” virtually from the moment of its birth, it still is far from the ideal of an Islamic State where only the Sharia rules. So the Islamists are working overtime to realise their totalitarian fantasy.
Post-Partition India thankfully opted for a secular state. But since the mid-1980s, Hindutvawadis have worked zealously to steer the country’s polity in the direction of a “Hindu rashtra”. With a self-proclaimed “Hindu nationalist” now at the helm, why be surprised if they today feel emboldened to speak and act as never before?
On Republic Day, the information and broadcasting ministry issued an ad using a visual of the pre-1976 amendment Preamble to our Constitution in which the words “secular” and “socialist” were missing. In an article published in a national daily, Sudheendra Kulkarni staunchly questioned the motive behind this attempt to revert to the un-amended Preamble.
The significance of his comments lies in the fact that he was aide to the former Prime Minister Atal Behari Vajpayee (right man in the wrong party) and subsequently adviser to the former stalwart of the Bharatiya Janata Party, L.K. Advani (the original “Lauh Purush”, “Chota Sardar”). Mr Kulkarni argues that attempts to defend the controversial ad by the I&B minister of state, Rajyavardhan Singh Rathore, and comments by the Shiv Sena MP Sanjay Raut have in effect brought Hindutva’s “hidden agenda” out in the open.
But contrary to what he thinks, the controversial ad is no “Freudian slip”. If anything it’s the latest instance of the Sangh Parivar’s Machiavellian mind at work. The Hindu rashtra ideal is by no means a “forbidden fantasy” lodged in the “unconscious” of its followers. It’s been out there in bold print in the writings of V.D. Savarkar and the most revered “guru” of the Sangh Parivar, M.S. Golwalkar for nearly a hundred years. It’s only the compulsion of democratic politics that forces the Sangh Parivar into keeping its real agenda hidden from the electorate.
The words “secular” and “socialist” are even today embedded in the party constitution which the BJP adopted for itself at its birth in 1980. But who does not know that the politically-expedient bid to loosen its ties with Hindutva was hastily abandoned the moment the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh hit back, switching its political support to the Congress in 1984 (following the assassination of Indira Gandhi and the massacre of Sikhs)?
Since the mid-1980s, the BJP has done everything possible to make secularism sound like a dirty word. Its former president, Mr Advani, shrewdly coined the term “pseudo-secularism” to demean and rubbish all secular politics as nothing but “appeasement of minorities”. The battle lines today are even more sharply defined: if you are not pro-Hindutva, you are “sickular”. There was no mention of the word secular in the BJP’s manifesto for the 2014 parliamentary elections.
The Republic Day ad is not the first attempt of the BJP and its parivar to banish the S-words from the country’s political vocabulary. At a Sadhu Sammelan following the demolition of the Babri mosque in December 1992, the Vishwa Hindu Parishad’s Swami Vamdev had publicly demanded that the Indian Constitution be thrown into the dustbin of history, replaced by a Hindu Constitution. “Why only four, Hindu men should be free to marry 44 women if they so desired,” he had thundered.
During the BJP-led coalition’s 13-month tenure in power at the Centre, initiating a debate on a comprehensive review of the Indian Constitution in 1998, the then BJP vice-president and spokesperson K.L. Sharma had talked about deleting the words “secular” and “socialist” from the Preamble. Leaders from the Sangh Parivar have a long history of double-speak. In sharp contrast, the late Shiv Sena supremo, Bal Thackeray, never minced his words. In an interview to Shekhar Gupta for his Walk the Talk programme (in 2007), he more or less justified the assassination of Mahatma Gandhi by Nathuram Godse (“Godse thought that if this old man lives any longer then he will ruin the country… you have to think… why he decided to kill”); reiterated that what India really needed was a “benevolent dictatorship”; praised Adolf Hitler: “Hitler did very cruel and ugly things (to the Jews). But he was an artist, I love him (for that). He had the power to carry the whole nation, the mob with him. You have to think what magic he had. He was a miracle”.
That’s Thackeray, unadulterated. So different from the patriarchs of the Sangh Parivar who continue to revere “Guru Golwalkar” (the second and the longest serving sarsanghchalak of the RSS: 1940-1973), but find his admiration for Hitler and antipathy to India’s religious minorities so politically embarrassing in today’s context that they claim the book, We, or Our Nationhood Defined (1938), was written by someone else.
That’s why, to make sense of the Sangh Parivar’s frequent double-speak, it’s often helpful to listen to the Shiv Sena’s straight talk on the subject. Listen, therefore, to Mr Raut who spoke thus on the latest controversy: “Balasaheb Thackeray had been saying that India was divided on the lines of religion. Pakistan was created for Muslims, thus, what remains is a Hindu rashtra.
The country is of Hindus and belongs to them. People of all religions can live in India but Hindus will dominate.” India, he insisted, was never secular. Perhaps we should be grateful that no one, as yet, has demanded the deletion of the word “democratic” from the Preamble, and its replacement with the word “Hindu” to leave us with just “Sovereign Hindu Republic”.

The writer is co-editor of Communalism Combat and general secretary, Muslims for Secular Democracy

Thursday, February 5, 2015

Barack Obama: Religious intolerance in India would have shocked Mahatma Gandhi

My dear fellow Indians, you are, yes, everyone of you is an Indian and that is all it matters to me, as your Prime Minster, I am here to make sure, you have equal access to justice, employment, schooling, loans, housing, health care, food, places of worship and retirement.” You can count on me, and together let's build an India where every one of you is comfortable with the other regardless of what you speak, believe, eat or wear. " and, "I will not tolerate any harassment of any Indian by fellow Indians"
I have a few of my Indian Christian and Hindu friends along with Muslims who are willing to sign a letter condemning the harassment of Christians - I will collect a few more names and write letter to PM Modi.


thanks for sharing your comments.
Mike Ghouse


In a message dated 2/5/2015 9:19:26 P.M. Central Standard Time, xxxbagh@gmail.com writes:
On Thursday, at the high-profile National Prayer Breakfast, Obama said, “Michelle and I returned from India — an incredible, beautiful country, full of magnificent diversity — but a place where, in past years, religious faiths of all types have, on occasion, been targeted by other people of faith, simply due to their heritage and their beliefs — acts of intolerance that would have shocked Gandhiji, the person who helped to liberate that nation.”

Modi kept mum when the delegation of Indian Christians recently met him and asked him to speak out against attacks on churches and religious intolerance. It was a shocking answer to citizens asking for him to open his mouth and speak out against communal behavior of his party and his RSS affiliates. Now Modi's ears will prick when he hears Obama repeat his comments, and he will wonder where he stands with Obama and the US. India has been mentioned before as a place of religious intolerance by the US Commission on International Religious Freedom before. I hope their mentioning India in the new report will have demoralizing effect on Modi and his friends.

http://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-others/religious-intolerance-in-india-would-have-shocked-mahatma-gandhi-barack-obama/99/
Barack Obama: Religious intolerance in India would have shocked Mahatma Gandhi

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White House had refuted allegations that Obama’s remarks in India were aimed at the BJP.
Written by Lalit K Jha | Washington | Posted: February 6, 2015 3:37 am | Updated: February 6, 2015 8:24 am
US President Barack Obama on Thursday said “acts of intolerance” experienced by religious faiths of all types in India in the past few years would have shocked Mahatma Gandhi.
The comments came a day after the White House refuted suggestions that the US President’s public speech in New Delhi, in which he touched on religious tolerance, was a “parting shot” aimed at the ruling BJP.
Hours before winding up his three-day visit to India on January 27, Obama had said, “Every person has the right to practice his faith without any persecution, fear or discrimination. India will succeed so long as it is not splintered on religious lines. Your Article 25 says all people are equally entitled to the freedom of conscience and have the right to freely profess, practice and propagate religion. In both our countries, in all countries, upholding freedom of religion is the utmost responsibility of the government, but also the responsibility of every person.”
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On Thursday, at the high-profile National Prayer Breakfast, Obama said, “Michelle and I returned from India — an incredible, beautiful country, full of magnificent diversity — but a place where, in past years, religious faiths of all types have, on occasion, been targeted by other people of faith, simply due to their heritage and their beliefs — acts of intolerance that would have shocked Gandhiji, the person who helped to liberate that nation.”
However, he did not name any particular religion and said the violence is not unique to one group or one religion.
“Humanity has been grappling with these questions throughout human history. And lest we get on our high horse and think this is unique to some other place, remember  that during the Crusades and the Inquisition, people committed terrible deeds in the name of Christ. In our home country, slavery and Jim Crow (racial segregation state and local laws) all too often was justified in the name of Christ,” he said, addressing a gathering of over 3,000 US and international leaders.
“There is a tendency in us, a sinful tendency that can pervert and distort our faith. In today’s world, when hate groups have their own Twitter accounts and bigotry can fester in hidden places in cyberspace, it can be even harder to counteract such intolerance. But God compels us to try. And in this mission, I believe there are a few principles that can guide us, particularly those of us who profess to believe,” he said.

On Wednesday, the White House had refuted allegations that Obama’s remarks in India were aimed at the BJP, saying that the speech in its entirety was about the “core democratic values and principles” of both the US and India.

Tuesday, February 3, 2015

Praveen Togadia barred from Bangalore, VHP fumes

I stand for free speech, even if it were a hate speech. I will urge the media to record the speech and after effects, As the report claims that, Togadia's previous speech on Jan 17 injured 30 and several lakhs worth of property was vandalized, if this is documented well, then Togadia is responsible and must be sued for damages. 

I have always stood up for free speech. It is ironic that I stood up for Pamela Geller's who was banned from speaking in London, and she wanted to sue me for telling on Fox News that it was her ad in the subway that killed a passenger who was Hindu. No one has sued her.

We need to sue any one whose speech will cause damage to life and property, but free speech including hate speech must be allowed, I am glad they have allowed the MIM rally as well.

Yes for every Hindu Ass, there is a Muslim Ass. 


Mike Ghouse committed to free speech
www.MikeGhouse.net 

Praveen Togadia barred from Bangalore, VHP fumes

  • Sudipto Mondal, Hindustan Times, Bengaluru
  •  | 
  • Updated: Feb 03, 2015 10:49 IST

Vishwa Hindu Parishad's motorcycle rally in Bengaluru. (HT Photo)


The Vishwa Hindu Parishad's plan to organise a "Hindu rally" in Bangalore hit a hurdle on Tuesday when their star speaker Praveen Togadia was banned from entering the city.

Sources in the home minister's office told Hindustan Times that the government is also considering banning Togadia, who has at least 19 cases of hate speech against him in over a dozen states, from entering Karnataka.

The VHP said the ban was "undemocratic" and claimed it had mustered more than two lakh supporters for the event called Hindu Viraat Samavesha on February 8. "We have issued prohibitory orders banning Togadia's entry into the city but we have decided to permit the event. We are in talks with the organisers to arrive at a mutually agreed format for the programme," said Bangalore Police Commissioner MN Reddi.

Reddi said Togadia had been barred from the city to "prevent a law and order situation".

The VHP plans to protest for Togadia. "We will move court to get justice and hold protests across Karnataka against the decision of this anti-Hindu government," said VHP south India organising secretary Gopalji.

"This is unconstitutional and undemocratic. Togadia has addressed many rallies in Karnataka over the last few months and there has been no trouble. The Congress is playing vote bank politics," said former BJP chief minister Jagdish Shettar, who is leader of the opposition.
Chief minister Siddaramaiah supported the police's decision. "The government had nothing to do with it. The decision was taken independently by the police. But it was a good decision as Togadia's previous visits to the State have triggered communal violence. The government is committed to preventing such attempts at polarization," he said.

A riot broke out during Togadia's last visit to Karnataka on January 17 when he addressed a gathering of 25,000 supporters at Puttur, 60 km Mangaluru. More than 30 people were injured in the violence and property worth several lakh rupees was destroyed.

Interestingly, the Majlis Ittehadul Muslimin has planned a massive rally on February 8 to counter the VHP's event. As the main speaker, they plan to have the party president and MP Asaduddin Owaisi, who has nearly a dozen hate speech cases against him across Telangana and Andhra Pradesh. Home Ministry sources said that Owaisi too will be prevented from entering the State although they said that his status as an elected representative might complicate matters.