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Showing posts with label Hindu ISIS. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Hindu ISIS. Show all posts

Friday, December 15, 2017

Why are Hindus trying to prove that they can become ISIS-like extremists


Taslima Nasreen’s article is worth pondering, for a good change, she has appealed to common sense. Although the radicals among Muslims and Hindus may not like this, she has brought a few unresolved issues to the fore. This note is not about Hindus or Muslims, but about dealing with the radicalized among us.

Taslima has however senselessly stoked the Hindu fears by using the phrase ‘divide India.’ To Muslims it means discrimination whereas to Hindus it reaffirms the ‘Pakistan phobia’ that Modi stokes regularly. 

I have written several pieces on reconciliation and mitigation of fears among the radicalized ones, it is time we hold a national conference on this subject in the likes of what Nelson Mandela did in South Africa.  In almost every conflict we’ve seen in India, the following revengeful epithets have been thrown: Babar ki Aulad, Aurangzeb, Somnath, Guru Gobind Singh etc ad-nauseam.

There are a lot of myths out there that need to be brought into open and demystify them. We (all Indians who care for an India where every Indian feels secure) cannot change the hard core men and women, but strengthen the majority who sits on the fence and earn their support with facts. It is a long term effort to build a cohesive India where no Indian has to live in apprehension or fear of the other. Indeed, that was the unstated goal of Hinduism, Islam, Christianity, Sikhism and all religions.

There is a thought worth exploring; the base instinct in human beings always seeks a target to attack (or hate) to dump their inexplicable anger on someone, to seek false security by creating chaos and fear among the targets.  Until the British directed the manufactured ire of Hindus towards Muslims as a part of divide and rule, their hate in the form of denigration was directed at the Dalits for several centuries, now it is redirected against Dalits, Muslims and Christians. As responsible citizens, we need to find channels to direct their anger and bring a sense of security to them. Please remember it is not about Muslims and Hindus, it is about the radicalized among us.

Should Muslims defend the bad deeds of the Kings in the past who happened to be Muslims? Should Hindus take their anger out on Muslims of independent India who have nothing to do with those kings? 

Part of the reconciliation includes summary from our historians to put a brief history of kings; Hindu, Muslim, Christian, Buddhist, Sikh, Zoroastrian and others. Wasn’t purpose of every king to loot and annex the next door land? Plunder the wealth of the weak? Don’t we find good and bad kings among all traditions? Was it their lust for power that drove them insane rather than their religion?  What has religion got to do with their greed?


Thanks our founding fathers for bringing us our government by us for us. 


On Dec 15, 2017, at 10:08 AM, Mohammad Imran wrote:
Supporters of Shambhulal want to prove that Hindus too can become extremists like Muslim extremists. Shambhulal may be in jail, but thousands of Shambhulals are walking about free with their anger, disgust, and hatred. How many of these people can be jailed to maintain peace? How many Muslim people can be liberated from their daily fears and apprehensions?

We are all Indians, South Asians — religion, caste, language, history do not constitute our identity. Our love and compassion is our identity.


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Why are Hindus trying to prove that they can become ISIS-like extremists: Taslima Nasreen
TASLIMA NASREEN 14 December, 2017
  
(Representational image) Activists of Bajrang Dal during a bike rally in Jammu, India. Photo by Nitin Kanotra/Hindustan Times via Getty Images

This is the kind of politics that divided India once, and may divide India again, writes author Taslima Nasreen.
I have not watched how terrorists hacked to death the Bangladeshi freethinkers Abhijit, Bijoy, Washikur, Deepan.
But I have seen how Shambhulal brutally murdered Afrazul in Rajasthan, courtesy his nephew’s video on the internet. The murder-video was broadcast on the internet, just like ISIS does. ISIS knows that in their strongholds in Syria, no police will come to arrest them. Shambhulal probably also thought that no one would punish him.
Both kindness and savageness exist inside human beings. Some people mute the savage in them, others the kindness.
Shambhulal does not suffer from mental illness. He was cold and composed while he hacked Afrazul to death. But what was Afrazul’s fault? He is a poor man from a poor village in West Bengal. Many from his native village come to Rajasthan and other states as labourers. Afrazul was almost 50 years old, and he was not falsely enticing a Hindu-woman to marriage or converting her.
Friends of Shambhulal have said that the he used to love a Hindu woman but that woman had a relationship with another Muslim man. However, that man was not Afrazul. This woman once ran away with her Muslim lover to West Bengal and Shambhulal went after them to bring her back. Apparently, he got beaten up by some Bengali Muslim workers there.
Many women ran off from Shambhulal’s village and married Muslim men. Some say Shambhulal killed the first Muslim man he got his hands on and killed him to instill fear in Muslim men who marry Hindu women to convert.
The question is: how did Shambhulal gain this ISIS-like courage? Are there other people like him, who support his opposition to Muslims? He assumed he wouldn’t be condemned, but praised.
When I criticised the brutal murder-video on Twitter, many people rose up to support him. Earlier when I condemned gau rakshaks beating innocent Muslims to death, I faced similar ire from the Hindus. They threatened me that I must not utter a single word against Hindus while sitting in India. If I don’t appreciate Hindu culture and traditions, then I should leave the country at once.
Intolerance is at its peak now. I have discussed irrational Hindu rituals and oppression of women earlier but never received such threats. For me, humanity, equality, liberty and generosity have always been greater than any religion. Because I have criticised one specific religion does not mean that I like all other religions.  If religious notions do not change with time, religion will continue to be intolerant. Then people will have to discard religion for humanity, or cleverly assimilate humanity into religion.
The more religious intolerance increases in India, the more the non-religious people are hated and anti-women sentiments celebrated. This is why the release of Padmavati was stopped or people who kill Muslims for eating beef can enjoy impunity. Or why the people who murdered Kalburgi and Gauri Lankesh cannot be traced.
I do not want to accept this changed India and I hope these changes are temporary.
Popular television channels or newspapers treated Shambhulal’s murder and the video like it was just another everyday murder. But it was not. ISIS terrorists wear masks when they kill, Shambhulal did not.
The point of the video is that Muslims can be killed easily. They can be killed because they invaded India, destroyed temples and plundered villages, converted Hindus, took over a Hindu land and ruled over Hindus. And now, they have commenced ‘love jihad.’ Muslim men are apparently faking love to marry Hindu women and converting them to Islam. This is what Shambhulal wants to stop. He will not let Hindu women marry Muslim men under any circumstance.
In opposition to ‘love jihad’, Hindus are doing their own ‘ghar wapsi’ where Muslims should leave behind Islam and accept Hinduism as their faith. Both ‘ghar wapsi’ and ‘love jihad’ are equally deplorable ideas and true love between a Hindu-Muslim couple should not be denied or made the subject of humiliation.
However, the question is: why should Afrazul pay for the mistakes of Muslim invaders in the past?
On 6 December, 1992, after Hindu fundamentalists destroyed the Babri Masjid, Muslim fundamentalists in Bangladesh took revenge by burning down a Hindu temple. Why did innocent Hindus in Bangladesh pay for the crimes of the Hindu fundamentalists in India? And those who think innocent Hindus are not responsible for Babri Masjid demolition, do they also think that innocent labourers like Afrazul should not have to pay for Muslim invaders? If people consider this fair, then they believe in divisive politics. This is the kind of politics that divided India once, and may divide India again.
Supporters of Shambhulal want to prove that Hindus too can become extremists like Muslim extremists. Shambhulal may be in jail, but thousands of Shambhulals are walking about free with their anger, disgust, and hatred. How many of these people can be jailed to maintain peace? How many Muslim people can be liberated from their daily fears and apprehensions?
We are all Indians, South Asians — religion, caste, language, history do not constitute our identity. Our love and compassion is our identity.
Taslima Nasreen is a celebrated author and commentator.
(Translated from Bengali by Neera Majumdar)
Other articles

India's future - Modi and moving forward - https://www.huffingtonpost.com/mike-ghouse/indias-future-narendra-mo_b_4177079.html

The cost of Hindu Extremism - http://mikeghouseforindia.blogspot.com/2015/11/the-costs-of-hindu-extremism.html

Is Hinduism a Violent Religion? https://www.opednews.com/articles/Is-Hinduism-a-violent-reli-by-Mike-Ghouse-Bharatiya-Janata-Party_CONVERSION_Fascist_Hinduism-150115-386.html

Source of Muslim Extremism - https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/the-source-of-muslim-extremism_us_57843863e4b04041a9858324

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Thank you
Mike Ghouse

Wednesday, November 4, 2015

India's Problem - A new avatar of ISIS is taking birth in Hinduism

I urge Moderate Hindus around the world to condemn the new avatar of ISIS in India. Hindu religion is a peaceful religion and its name is being tarnished. They need to speak up, as the radical Hindus are hijacking their religion, they are openly dictating what one should eat, wear or believe. Yesterday, a Chief Minister of a state was threatened to be beheaded if he ate beef. Writers were murdered in day light, men and women are being lynched for their beliefs...

What is Prime Minister Modi doing? Is he backing this extreme version of Hinduism? God only knows, he has remained silent over all these incidents. Not a word of condemnation?

A few of the Indians are behaving irrationally with the given situation, they are reeling with the fact that their God like man Modi is responsible for this, and denying it, they simply do not have the stomach to dialogue and discuss, instead they are throwing things like "this is congress propaganda" or "lies" and other words due to their language deficiency. I understand their dilemma and urge them to discuss the issue with the intent of finding solutions Every one of us has the same goal - society to live in harmony, most believe in live and let live and a few believe in live and subjugate others. 

Moderate Hindus have to speak up to save the good name of Hinduism and thank God many of them are standing up from historians, journalists, writes, academics and you name it. But we need more voices to bring control to the situation. 

   


A few clips from my responses on facebook:

Yogi, yes, the moderate India is peace loving; moderate Hindus are peace loving; moderate Muslims are peace loving and moderate Christians are peace loving
Right now the radicals among Hindus are bent on destroying that beautiful tradition, and I am urging Moderate Hindus to stop the radicals from branding Hinduism negatively. 

Another clip:

If you cannot present a logical explanations, you tend to resort to, “ blatant lies about India , Indians and specially Hindus.”  You don’t make any sense. 

We have to save India from being run over by the radicals among Hindus who are acting like the ISIS brutes,  if we don’t, India’s future will be severely affected. Moody’s has already made the call and it is possible that investors may pull out of India, it will create a massive chaos and unemployment. Do you want that to happen? 

Are you telling me the threat to behead Siddaramiah should be ignored?

Are you telling me raping a dead woman is Hinduism?

Are you telling me burning Dalits is Hinduism?

Are you telling me lynching a guy in Dadri is Hinduism?

Are you telling me hacking Kulbargi to death is Hinduism?

Are you telling me messing with the face of Kulkarni is Hinduism?

If you think yes, then you have not understood Hinduism, a religion that teaches non-violence.

What does it take for you to understand that Hindutva and Hinduism are two different things, one is a political radical ideology and other is peaceful religion? Just as Islam and Islamism, Islam and ISIS and other combinations with other faiths. 

When we see bad things happen, we have to speak up. It is not about Hindus, it is about India which is a collective pride of Hindus, Muslims, Christians, Sikhs, Jains, Dalits and all other Indians.

Most Indians are capable of discussions but a few are not, tend to be belligerent.  I urge them to stick to a topic and not jump from subject to subject without completing one. If you want to wrap up and get an understanding of the item, you have stick to the central theme of the discussion.  I further request my friends to respond with reason and fact, rather than resorting to calling the other a liar. Please develop the skills to distinguish between Hinduism and Hindutva, Islam and Islamism, Christianity and Neocons – one is a beautiful religion and other is a political ideology bent on subjugating the other.  We are all in this together to create a society where all of us can live in harmony and with least amount of conflicts. Let’s live our life and others live theirs.

More at http://MikeGhouseforIndia.blogspot.com 




Dr. Mike Ghouse is a community consultant, social scientist, thinker, writer and a speaker on Pluralism, Interfaith, Islam, politics, human rights, India,  foreign policy and building cohesive societies. Mike offers pluralistic solutions on issues of the day. More about him in 63 links at www.MikeGhouse.net and his writings are at TheGhousediary.com  

Thursday, October 1, 2015

Is Hinduism a religion of violence?

Where are the Moderate Hindus | http://MikeGhouseforIndia.blogspot.com 

Where are the moderate Hindus? If the moderate Hindus don’t speak up, shamefully Hinduism will be slapped with the label of religion of violence.  In the last year and half, India has witnessed relentless harassment of the Dalits, Muslims and Christians. This week a man is mercilessly beaten to death by a mob with bricks for supposedly eating beef, which he did not per the police. 


India had a glorious civilization and the extremist among Hindus cannot mess with it, unless we let them.  Our past was made up of respecting the otherness of others, but today, we are going in the opposite direction.

Was our civilization bad? 


Eating beef has been made a crime in India now. If unchecked, India will regress and the glorious past will be equated with stupidity for forcing and harassing people to obedience as the ISIS brutes do.   Our civilization was a great civilization and we cannot let a few misguided ones ruin India's pluralistic ethos. 

I like to see an India where one has the freedom to eat, drink, breath, wear or believe whatever the hell he or she wants.

I do expect Americans of Indian origin to speak up, hoping that they have learned the value of freedom in America, where we mind our own business and eat whatever we want to. 


Mike Ghouse
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Mike Ghouse
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Dr. Mike Ghouse is a social scientist, thinker, writer and a speaker on Pluralism, Interfaith, 
Islam, politics, foreign policy and building cohesive societies. Mike offers pluralistic solutions on issues of the day. More about him in 63 links at www.MikeGhouse.net and his writings are at TheGhousediary.com   

Thursday, December 25, 2014

is Hinduism a violent religion?

Full article will be at Huffington Post by December 31, 2014
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mike-ghouse/
http://images.huffingtonpost.com/2014-12-30-1.courtesy.assam123.comHinduViolence.jpg
The extremists among Hindus have hijacked the religion of peace and non-violence, just as the extremists among Buddhists, Jews and Muslims have done it with their religions. It is time for the moderate Hindus to speak up, if not, the new narrative would be Hinduism is a religion of violence, fascism and forcible conversions.
Hinduism is indeed blessed not to be slapped with 9/11 like terrorism label on it, despite the massacres of 3000 Sikhs in New Delhi by the violent Hindu mobs in just three days, for a total of 8,000 Sikhs within a week. Nearly a thousand Muslims were butchered by the fanatic Hindus in Gujarat within two weeks in 2002. Christian Nuns were raped, their churches pillaged and some of the missionaries were burnt alive including Rev. Graham Staines. What is done to the Dalits, formerly known as untouchable is unforgivable. The historic 500 year old Babri Mosque was destroyed in 1992 by extremists Hindu mobs.

No good Hindu should be offended by the above, they did no wrong. They would be wrong if they don’t speak out against it.




The Majority Hindus need to speak up to save the nation. 



  1. Reconversion roils in India - New York Times - http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/24/world/asia/india-narendra-modi-hindu-conversions-missionaries.html
  2. Hindus attack Christmas Carolers 
    http://www.worthynews.com/18157-india-hindus-attack-christmas-carolers
  3. Conversions : For the love of God by Bikram Vohra-  http://www.arabnews.com/columns/news/678451
  4. Christians under Attack in India http://www.crossmap.com/news/christmas-season-brings-christianity-under-renewed-attack-in-india-15059
  5. My Close encounters with Hindutva - http://mikeghouseforindia.blogspot.com/2014/12/my-close-encounter-with-hindutva.html
  6. HIndu Switch Sparks Anger - Hong Kong http://www.thestandard.com.hk/news_detail.asp?we_cat=6&art_id=152563&sid=43584267&con_type=1&d_str=20141222&fc=4
  7. No right to undermine Secular nature of India - Hindustan Times - http://www.hindustantimes.com/comment/no-right-to-undermine-secular-nature-of-india/article1-1300103.aspx
  8. New tolerane for Intolerance in India - http://thejakartaglobe.beritasatu.com/opinion/in-modis-india-new-tolerance-for-intolerance/
  9. Modi's slogans and performances http://www.telegraphindia.com/1141224/jsp/opinion/story_4940.jsp#.VJtUUF4B1A
  10. THEIR CROSS TO BEAR http://www.outlookindia.com/article/Their-Cross-To-Bear/292915
  11. Modi's party finally distances itself from the conversion. As usual, Modi has a habit of stepping in after the damage is done.http://in.reuters.com/article/2014/12/20/india-politics-religion-idINKBN0JY0AS20141220
  12. India Inc speaks out against Hindutva Hotheads - http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/business/india-business/India-Inc-takes-on-Sangh-hotheads/articleshow/45623032.cms?utm_source=fb&utm_campaign=toimobile&utm_medium=referral
  13. Standing up for Hindus - http://standingupforothers.blogspot.com/2012/04/standing-with-hindus.html
  14. Standing up for Christians - http://standingupforothers.blogspot.com/2012/01/standing-with-christians.html

Mike Ghouse


MikeGhouseforIndia.blogspot.com

Saturday, December 13, 2014

Hindutva forces hell bent on converting Muslims and Christians

Every human should be free to eat, drink, wear and believe whatever the hell he or she wants, and no one should be forced to do otherwise in a free country. It is the freedom that is allowing each one of us to be who we are out of our own volition. At no cost we should let this freedom be compromised.

This is the story of aggressive harassment by extremists among Hindus. Bajrang Dal is becoming to be ISIS or Hindu ISIS of India, when this is allowed, at the very end of the tunnel, no one, yes no one, including Hindus who do not subscribe to their extremism will be affected severely.

I am glad the entire Muslim world is condemning ISIS, they are tarnishing the name of Islam and there is nothing Islamic about them, they are rogues and freaks. Even the Talibans have washed hands off them.  Now, the entire Hindu world has Hindu-ISIS on their hands and I hope they condemn the harassment and threats they pose to fellow Indians.

We should have no problem if Muslims convert to Hinduism or Hindus to Christianity or any combination thereof, even if each group is lured financially to become one. The politicians switch parties for money or election; we change jobs for better money. Why shouldn't people switch for the same money, and meeting their dire needs of food, clothing and a source of income?

For years the extremists among Hindus have attacked Christians for bribing people to convert, and now they are doing the very same thing they accused others of. What Muslims factually or allegedly did in the past, should remain behind 1947. We are a new independent and free India and our story began on August 15, 1947 and we don't want India to be like what we shun.

Now, every Indian is a goddamned Indian regardless of his or her faith, caste, color, social, political or financial status, and we need to stand up against injustice to every Indian. We should rise above pettiness and speak up, before the extremism takes over and we have to regret.

I hope to write my 16th essay about Modi urging him to take the lead and speak up and not be a silent spectator and watch his dream, like the dream of 1.25 billion Indians go down the drain. We want pragati and not religion.

Mike Ghouse
www.MikeGhouse.net 

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TIMES OF INDIA


Lure of ration cards for food led to Agra 'reconversion'?

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/agra/Lure-of-ration-cards-led-to-Agra-reconversion/articleshow/45443004.cms 


AGRA: A day after a group of around 200 Muslims in Madhunagar slum-cluster here claimed they had "reconverted" to Hinduism, many of them on Tuesday said they were still Muslims, with some admitting that they had joined the RSS and Bajrang Dal-organized 'ghar vapsi' ceremony after being promised ration cards and houses. The saffron outfits, though, rubbished this claim, saying there was no inducement for "reconversion".

Farhan, a slum dweller, said, "If 40 people in saffron scarves come and stand on your head, you will do just as they want." Farhan was among those who had taken part in the puja, washed the feet of Hindu gods and also briefly worn vermillion on his forehead. On Tuesday, though, he said it was all for getting those men in "saffron scarves" off his back.

The re-conversion event was painted as "ghar vapsi" or re-conversion of Muslims who had Hindu ancestry. It was organized by the Dharma Jagran Samanvay Vibhag, an offshoot of the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh and Bajrang Dal. A 'shuddhikaran hawan' was also performed in the slum.

Bajrang Dal functionary Ajju Chauhan said the re-conversion had indeed taken place, and if the people were denying it, it was out of fear. "All these people have Hindu ancestors. They just did 'ghar vapsi'," he said, adding, "They were not lured by ration cards or houses. They wanted to lead clean lives."

District magistrate Pankaj Kumar and SSP Shalabh Mathur said no one had approached them in connection with the re-conversion event.


READ ALSO: RSS 're-converts' 200 Agra Muslims, says more in line


Ismail, who led the 200-odd Muslims in the event, said he offered namaz on Tuesday after no one from the saffron outfits turned up in their neighbourhood. "We're poor people and anyone can do anything with us. We can't afford to lose our lives over religion and conversion," Ismail said, adding that the promise of ration cards and houses had drawn many people.

"They first threatened to get us to vacate our homes. The land is owned by a Hindu. Later, they said that if we converted, we would get houses and better schooling for children," Ismail said. The women who had posed before cameramen on Monday sappeared withdrawn the day after and would not even allow the kids out to play.

Read this in Hindi: à¤¨à¤¯ा मोड़: RSS ने लालच देकर कराया धर्म परिवर्तन?